The Fine Art Of Sibling Diplomacy: The Pipeline Edition - Stab Mag

Watch: Stab High China Presented By Monster Energy, Day One

2463 Views
“I always have priority over you. Forever. I was surfing Pipe 10 years before you.” — John to Nathan.

The Fine Art Of Sibling Diplomacy: The Pipeline Edition

John John vs. Nathan.

cinema // Feb 18, 2025
Words by Jack O'Neill Paterson
Reading Time: 2 minutes

’Tis the season. Spines shattered, comps won and squandered, dreams seized, champions minted. A judging scandal. A bootleg broadcast, equal parts genius and gibberish. Retirements. And Caity Simmers, grinning, untouchable.

Yes, that’s right, it’s winter in Abu Dhabi.

Ahem… Sorry. Of course, it’s winter on the North Shore.

We’ve seen many things over the past few months, but today, we’ve been handed the most delectable nugget of brotherly truth, all thanks to the oracle Nathan Florence and his delightful YouTube channel.

John John Florence has always been a study in understatement. Peaceful, unshakable, impervious to the noise that swirls around him — his calm a sharp contrast to the tempest elsewhere. A world champion, a millionaire, a rare prophet who has done what few ever could — he’s reached the pinnacle, fulfilled his potential, and stood there without flinching.

But some laws of nature are absolute — gravity, tides, and the unshakable urge to one-up your brother.

In the video above, we see John and Nate enter the lineup together, a field of solid but not quite reaper-grade Pipe and Backdoor laid out before them. John strokes first. Normally, Nate would yield — big bro tax — but something sparks, a split-second rebellion, and he digs in, sneaking under John for a square Backdoor runner. Moments later, he’s back in position and slots himself into a proper Pipe bomb.

John, still waveless, is livid.

The delicate art of sibling diplomacy, as performed at Pipeline:

Nate: “After I got those waves, John was so mad at me. He wouldn’t even look at me. After I got the left, he lost it. He said, ‘You just took that wave from me. I’m taking every wave for the rest of the swell.’”

“What made it worse was that it was an hour and a half wait for the next wave to come, so we just sat there in silence.” 

“Finally, some waves came through, and John decided he’d had enough. But he took off on a terrible left. He came back out — still fuming. Then he took two more lefts, right in front of me.

“We paddled out at the same time, so I figured there was no priority yet.”

John: “I always have priority over you. Forever. I was surfing Pipe 10 years before you.”

Nate: “Dude, we’re only two years apart.” 

Did they kiss and make up? Watch above to find out.

Comments

Comments are a Stab Premium feature. Gotta join to talk shop.

Already a member? Sign In

Want to join? Sign Up

Advertisement

Most Recent

Watch Live: Stab High China Presented By Monster Energy, Day One

Top comment from the next two days wins a free surfboard.

Nov 12, 2026

Watch: A Full Day Of Stab High China X Monster Energy Warm-Ups

Or, proof that the ramp is as big as we've been claiming.

Nov 12, 2026

The Other Kelly Slater Documentary

Our latest How Surfers Get Paid episode collided with a multimillion-dollar Hollywood production, and we…

Nov 12, 2026

Albee Layer’s Biggest Career Regrets, Getting Sober, And The Heaviest Wave On Earth | StabMic Ep. 38

+ why he wants to see more double grabs at Stab High.

Nov 10, 2026

Everything You Need To Know About Stab High China, Presented By Monster Energy

We're two days away from our biggest chlorinated ramp yet.

Nov 10, 2026

Can We (Scientifically) Predict Barelling Waves?

Kanoa Pick and Cliff Kapono are giving it a damn good shot.

Nov 9, 2026

Why Does China Send People To The Moon?

We asked the designers of the world's best air section.

Nov 6, 2026

Meet Axel Dominguez Before He Does Something Stupid At Stab High

The 19-year-old French surfer just dropped an SEOTY entry called 'Glint.'

Nov 6, 2026

World Title Race: Who Needs What At Pipeline?

Don't let the yellow jerseys fool you.

Nov 5, 2026

I Know You’ve Got A Good Kelly Story, Too…

Coming soon: Our first feature length 'How Surfers Get Paid' documentary.

Nov 4, 2026

Ocean & Earth Release First Full-Length Surf Film In 27 Years | ‘DUALITY’ Starring Dakoda and Harley Walters

A gene pool counting the latest Surf100 winner + a 2x Stab High finalist.

Nov 3, 2026

Medina Wins First CT In Three Years, Claims Cloud 9 For The Goofs

While a bruised and bloodied Simmers rock and rolls into World Title contention.

Nov 3, 2026

Exclusive: Stab & Quiksilver’s New 11-Piece Collection

With 2x Stab High winner Hughie Vaughan at the centre of the mood board.

Nov 3, 2026

A Truly Obscene Day Of Competitive Surfing At Cloud 9

Day 3 leaves behind a wake of broken boards, battered bodies, and sickeningly good highlights.

Nov 2, 2026

Is The Surf Industry Having A Crisis Of Imagination? | StabMic Ep. 37 | Pat Towersey

"Marketing is total bullshit."

Nov 2, 2026

Watch: Oxbow’s Laura Coviella in ‘Untamed’ 

Feat round waves in the Ments.

Nov 1, 2026

Marama Takong Just Reminded Everyone Who Runs Cloud 9

A thumping first day at the CT's newest stop.

Nov 1, 2026

The Land Of Dancing Pandas, Fireblowers, And Big Fucking Ramps

What to expect on the ground at Stab High in China, according to a former…

Oct 31, 2026
Advertisement