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The paper it’s written on – A John Florence bidding war

It’s 2012 and John John Florence is surfing’s biggest hype machine. He just swallowed 50k in the Kustom Airstrike and earlier this year he won the Volcom Pipe Pro, the Telstra Drug Aware Pro in Margaret River and the Billabong Pro in Brazil. After his Rio win, Joel Parkinson said, “I love watching John John’s surfing most right now. I’m into it. There’s something so fresh and different. He’s got such a skating style. It’s good to watch.” Even more recently, after surfing a quarter against John in portugal, Joel said: “He’s got all the elements of one of the most amazing surfers I’ve ever seen.” When a hall-of-fame swell hit Tavarua during the Volcom Fiji Pro, John was the only man in the lineup without a life vest. And post-Fiji, Mick Fanning told Stab: “John’s so relaxed. He finds the craziest waves and he just doesn’t seem to freak out. He’s really calm. It’s crazy to watch.”

A stalefish oop you may've seen. Kustom Airstrike 2012. Photo by Nate Lawrence

There’s no frills. He’s just John and he just kills. So, does it surprise you to learn that there’s currently a bidding war going on between surfing’s biggest players, all trying to secure logo rights for the beak of John’s boards? And, it’s not just any bidding war, but the biggest bidding war in the history of surfing.

Right now, surfing’s three most powerful men are Kelly Slater, Dane Reynolds and John. From a company’s perspective, no point signing Kelly ’cause even if you had more money than sense, Kelly’s image is eternally weaved with Quiksilver. And, Dane’s locked up with Quik until 2017. But John John has that X factor the world is hot for. Can you believe he’s already spent 15 years on the books of O’Neill (since he was six)? John’s contract ends in September 2013. And, with the recent heat he’s been generating, John knows he’s currently well below his market value. So, expect to see things change much sooner.

Comfort in the tube? John's is unprecedented. Sure, that's a dirty word, but never been truer. Photo by Domenic Mosqueira

“When you get an athlete, one of those real major sort of guys, they’re trend-setters,” says Pat O’Connell, Hurley marketing cat, sometimes contest director and a man who emits nothing but good vibes. “They influence things, and they influence with their opinions on the world and what’s happening. What you’re getting is a human that you respect. They’re a rallying point. You feel like you’ve got someone who puts the product in the ground, and everyone gets on it.”

Earlier this year, Billabong went head-to-head with Nike to try and scoop up Kolohe Andino. With an ageing surf team, Billabong needed an injection of new blood. Since signing Joel Parkinson, Taj Burrow and Andy Irons, Kolohe would’ve been Billabong’s biggest spend. But, Nike managed to hold onto Brother. Now, and whether it’s coincidental or not, since Taj’s contract ends at the end of this year and Joel’s finishes next year, Billabong have made moves for John.

They ain’t the only ones.

A vivid, and close, sampling of John's warp. There's few hucks that aren't inverted. This one's on a French beachie. Photo by Ryan Miller

An industry insider confirmed that Hurley also want the Hawaiian and are proposing a deal that’d see John in Hurley apparel and suits and Nike footwear (Nike own Hurley). While Hurley’s lineup includes premium guys Brett Simpson, Miguel Pupo and Yadin Nicol, they’re currently without a multi-million-dollar-plus marquee surfer. Also in the ring is Vans, head-to-toe. John has ridden for Vans since 2001 and embodies everything the brand stands for. Both his brothers, Nathan and Ivan, also ride for Vans complete. A company that took minimal hits from the GFC (those Authentics, on every kid’s feet, were an antibiotic!), is something to take seriously.

And, O’Neill are also still trying to hold onto John, but they have the unenviable position of trying to hold onto both John and Jordy. Surfers like this don’t come cheap.

“I don’t know that there is an average salary for those big guys,” says Pat. “You know that they’re worth what they’re getting paid, because if they didn’t get paid their rate by one company, then another brand would pay them. I think if you get paid that and people are willing to pay you that, then that’s what you’re worth.”

A little sizzle in a jersey. This was only a coupla days ago in Portugal, at the Rip Curl Pro. Oh, and he won this heat. Photo by Ryan Miller.

Plenty of surfers on the edge of explosion have made pre-emptive strikes. A few months before his first event as a world tour surfer, Jordy Smith left Billabong and was scooped up by O’Neill. When Julian Wilson qualified for the tour, he left Quiksilver and signed with Nike. The point is, once y’make the world tour, your value as a surfer goes north. Good business doesn’t always accommodate loyalty and surfers have to make the most of their heat while they can, just in case it’s a little more short-lived than they hoped.

This movement comes two-and-a-half months after John left management at WMG (Wasserman Media Group) under Blair Marlin, who also manages Dane Reynolds and the Irons family. John’s now in the Sunka Entertainment fam, managed personally by Terry Hardy. That name should ring a bell. Terry’s the man who both manages Kelly and runs ZoSea (who just settled a very big deal to take over ASP media rights). A powerful man to have in your corner, f’sure. Both Blair and Terry (very politely) chose not to comment.

Our industry insiders estimate that John is worth between $3m and $4m a year, including wetsuits, apparel, eyewear, shoes, energy drink and watches. But with three major companies gunning for main sponsorship, you can assume it’s closer to four mil. A shade better than when he first signed an O’Neill contract for travel and contest entry fees, huh. – Elliot Struck

This ain't what John won the Kustom Airstrike with, but just one crumb from the tasty cake he sculpted during the 10-day boat trip. A dip-nose backside spin like few in this world can settle. Photo by Nate Lawrence.

96 comments so far...
1.

id like to see the cunt ride for mango actually….

2.

i reckon he will go to fox

3.

Where’s Red Bull? Those cunts will sponsor anything that moves.

4.

Oneill is the farthest thing from a core company there is. They’re owned by La Jolla Sports group which also owns such gems as metal mullisha, truth soul armor, and a bunch of other moto related stuff. The wetsuits have also been consistently the most overpriced suits on the market filled with buzz words and not a lot of substance. Their suits are made in the same factory as about 3-4 other companies and use the same shit but just call it something else.

JJF should just go for the money. Try to get a guaranteed amount per year regardless of what happens in terms of injury, the tour, etc. I can see Nike getting him and running some commercials of him standing in some massive chopes bomb with both hands dropped to his sides during some major mainstream sporting events.

5.

G – Global
F – Financial
C -Crisis

Not that challenging “stupid slang”

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thats not four mill a year is it? its got to be over the life of the contract right?

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no, it means four mill every year, but that from all his sponsors combined. Read it.

3.

Why is the only journalism we get from STab these days the industry bullshitt money talk?

    4.

    i like it it’s capitalism we live in believe it or not

5.

JJF & O’neill, hard to picture him anywhere else. Must have some coin too, they got Jordy over Nike

6.

Oh yeah that middle shot of that backhand air is insane too

7.

JJ lives on pipe, charges, is a multi millionare, and hes 19 or whatever. Luckiest kid alive for sure. ps john give me 1 mill you dont need it. im serious.

8.

id like to see the cunt ride for mango actually….

    9.

    He would

10.

xxxx

“ PUTS the PRODUCT IN THE GROUND ”
i just love insider brand/marketing speak ….. so creepy ….. so slimey

Stay radical ….. stay wild ….. do not sign with hurley.

xxxx

    11.

    Please

12.

fanning didnt have a vest on in fiji either.

    13.

    Ah yes, touche. So he was. And, Mick rode a particularly nasty wipeout.

      14.

      Neither was Blakey

    15.

    but he wasn´t getting the bombs

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i reckon he will go to fox

17.

Sponsors should be: Aston Martin, Ralph Lauren, Apple, Sperry, Persol, Tagheur, Leica, Ilford, RED Cameras, Air Hawaii, and the list goes on

18.

And Bede Durbridge, why the fuck would you go to Fox, what do they even make?

19.

gonna get him in some pure juice footwear ads

20.

I hope he keeps core with O’neill. and then gets outside sponsorship. Oneill wetsuits but nike or target. JJF and billabong would be lame he might get the billabong curse Of course he has to go for money but it would be so cool if he stayed loyal to such a core company like oneill easily the best wetsuits.

    21.

    Oneill is the farthest thing from a core company there is. They’re owned by La Jolla Sports group which also owns such gems as metal mullisha, truth soul armor, and a bunch of other moto related stuff. The wetsuits have also been consistently the most overpriced suits on the market filled with buzz words and not a lot of substance. Their suits are made in the same factory as about 3-4 other companies and use the same shit but just call it something else.

    JJF should just go for the money. Try to get a guaranteed amount per year regardless of what happens in terms of injury, the tour, etc. I can see Nike getting him and running some commercials of him standing in some massive chopes bomb with both hands dropped to his sides during some major mainstream sporting events.

      22.

      I would love to see someone straighten up with their “arms to their side” at Teahupoo in full size. That wave will suck any overly cocky surfer over the falls and swallow them whole regardless of their worth. Haha I just noticed I said suck, cock, and swallow all in the same sentence so I’ll call myself out on that before someone else
      does

23.

Billabong, Hurley, and O’Neill are for junior high children. Big stupid labels…

Men’s clothing is Quiksilver.

    24.

    Quicksilver is dead & died along time ago

25.

@STABmag what is GFC? otherwise i enjoyed reading this which is now somewhat of a rarity on this website. what was once a realm of controversial journalism is now merely a catapult for commercial bullshit awash with fucking stupid slang. wouldnt’t ya agree? FUCK that shit pisses me off

    26.

    G – Global
    F – Financial
    C -Crisis

    Not that challenging “stupid slang”

27.

MomJon the new daddy warbucks

28.

Where’s Red Bull? Those cunts will sponsor anything that moves.

    29.

    You have that one wrong. We don’t “sponsor” anyone, and our athletes are the ones innovating the sports they live. You will never see just any average charger wearing our brand.

30.

Oh gawd, I hope Nike & Red Bull don’t get him. I’m tired of those cheesy jock boys already….

31.

Red Bull just spent who knows how much to send a guy to space. I think they can pony up a bit more money then the traditional surf companies. It would suck, but its gotta be nice to have more money then they know what to do with

32.

VANS

33.

My dream sponsor would be the US Federal Reserve. Wait….they have no money. shit.

34.

i’ve always thought one of these elite surfers should ride for an airline…

    35.

    Airlines hate surfers.

36.

why not a conventional sponsor such as SPLIT or even EZEKIEL?

37.

patagonia

38.

What do Rusty make again?

39.

What about McDonalds and Coca Cola
They’ve done a great job representing the Olympic Games by commercialising food obesity and broad physical degradation in society. I lost almost any interest in professional sports due to these factors increasing year by year. When I was young I used to look up to the guys and feel something about it. Now there is only disgust.
Or wait what about an energy-company like Gazprom. Or the oil industry, Shell and BP have a whole heap of stash of collard green. U just ask that hipster from Byron who now resides in Sydney.
Seriously, keep it serious surfing world. If u wanna channel money then keep it in the sense of the surf industry and benefit the key stakeholders. Nike should never have been allowed to enter this segment. Indirectly over Hurley is ok, but like fark, why the fuck can they oversell the true fundamentals of surfing with their capitalist mass products. Thats not exactly shaping the culture in a way the old dogs can be fond of.
What you as an industry have to realise is that you need some young guns with degrees managing the larger range thinking stuff. People with passion and values and diplomas.

    40.

    A McDonalds Big Mac and a Coke …… thats the lunch of champions mate !

    41.

    It’s the other way round Fabian, that “hipster” from Byron moved there from Sydney. And we all know how those hipsters just love their Maccas, Gazprom and BP fuel. You are a tool. Whats the difference between a public company that is labelled a surf company and a public company labelled a sports company. What does it have to do with you going surfing? Are you looking for a job?

42.

Oakley everything.
He could be the new Dingo.

    43.

    hahahahahahahahahahaa yept hthe new ding

44.

Nice piece — great to get some more insight into what’s happening.

45.

gotta be rhythm clothing right?

46.

4 mil to surf…thats FKED UP…there are kids dying of malnutrition and drinking mud in Africa..and these little pooheads are getting millions… the surf industry suks balls and if those OVER paid surfers cared a shit tard they’d give half of that away to charity…PISSED!

    47.

    And euro footballers are making 50 million a year? Not JJs fault. The companies have the money, you rather it just stays in the pockets of the hedge funds and other rich old men who really own them? Nikes not going to feed the world

48.

He should go to Hurley. Pat O’Connell will instruct him to grow his hair out super long, wear the ugliest t-shirts and wetsuits imaginable and become blonde Machado. Only he’ll be young, better at surfing and win contests.

49.

nikes gootta be bummed spending so much on koloeandini. what an embarrassement and hasnt even remotely lived up to his hype. and he and Coach mike say there ‘stoked’ he got an equal 9th, his best asp ever, and he said,” i beat taj”
and poor oneil, wasted alot on never quite pulls it tho so talented jordy. altho it could have been worst – couldda been on the new hobgoods-the gusdakisseessss.

50.

Oprah would be a good sponsor.

51.

$4 mill a year to surf (and, let’s face it ‘shift product’) does indeed sound obscene, but less so when compared to the stupic amounts thrown at golf/tennis pros. I’m sure many of the top earners give generously to worthy causes, but world-wide fame and admiration awaits the first one to say; “Y’know, I have enough money to last me and my family several life times. This year I’ll be donating ALL my earnings to the following charities…” Would make a nice change from the Williams sister whining about how much tax they pay!! Who’s got what it takes to usher in a new era of philanthropy? Anyone??
p.s. yes, I am from Byron, and no, I’m not a hipster :)

52.

The truth is too much money can be a curse rather than a blessing. Look at the lives of celebrities in hollywood and athletes in the other big money sports. Many or most of them actually lead miserable lives of failed relationships, depression, and do not find peace, but just an ever increasing need to have more, more, more…..
Which also leads to larger institutional financial breakdown form overspending…..case in point – the surf companies can no longer afford to put on contests because the upper echelon athletes in our sport want more than our industry can provide…..so Zosea wants now to create a “European Union” of sorts ‘to save everybody’ and ‘make life more wonderful for surfers than it has ever been.’ Time will tell, but in five years from now the surf industry and pro surfing will reap what it is sowing.

53.

How dumb does kgbay sound. Comes from good stock i bet.HAHA and to think he wrote this after that air reverse in that round 5 shit. Kid has better fundementals than 90% of the tour. KOLOHE style power and finess isnt going nowhere anytime soon. Kid has andy in him. Kolohe start charging. Your skill is overdue. Shut these landlocked kooks up.

54.

i hope so much that VANS have the coin to compete

55.

Double John is going to need to be sponsored by Durex and KY. He’s going to be very rich and popular. Plus his mom will need the KY when Taj comes to visit.

56.

Apparently Catch-it, Kuta Lines, 100% Mambo, Mango, Piping Hot and OP were involved in an intense bidding war.

    57.

    your on fire lad ….. ha ha ha

58.

You might be adding Billabong to that list soon @ Nathan.

59.

john’s roots are too deep in vans for him to start rocking nike kicks

60.

Jordy will be full Oakley. John John will be O’Neill/Vans combo. Billabong ha ha as if

61.

I rekon Nike 6.0 will get him because all their team riders are shit

62.

I can imagine John John handling this crazy bidding war the same way he handles 10ft Pipe – ridiculously carefree. I can picture him in the meeting room, half asleep on the table not really giving a shit, content with the fact that whatever happens he is set for life and will never have to leave his house at Pipe for any financial reasons. JJF is the first super-grom in a while who truly gives me the impression that he couldn’t care less about anything other than going surfing (be it freesurfing 20ft Cloudbreak or grovelling 2ft Brazilian beachies in a WCT event).

63.

vans easy

64.

Hot Tuna, Gotcha…. Actually, MCD would be epic.

65.

Vans would be the sickest. Regardless, JJ’s gotta grow those locks out and be the ultimate surf rat again… can you imagine those locks flowing during his full roterz? mmm

    66.

    i wanna see them flowing through 15ft pipe keggas

67.

Hot Buttered

68.

@retro ….. and Balin leashes you say????

69.

please john john stay with VANS, i will feel deeply dissappointed if he starts wearing NIKE shoes…dont be one more of the list with julian and kolohe (nothing wrong with them)….but john john is different, i hope he stays like that and dont become one more sheep in the flock of RED BULL

70.

Every WCT surfer that surfed big Cloudbreak that afternoon did not wear a vest or a shirt. Each one surfed in only shorts: JJF, Mick, Joel, Ace Buchan & Damo Hobgood. As for JJF, take an ethical stand and shun an energy drink sponsor.

71.

Dont rule out astrodeck either

72.

John John Florence is the real thing, he is comfortable from 2ft to 25 feet, a classic Hawaian, he’s worth the millions, he will win many contests and hopefully championships,

73.

Juicy topic. Don’t care about the sponsor bullshit. Just looking forward to seeing all three of these Florence kids going nuts in the near future. Little brothers charge too…

74.

billabong will drop wade, laurie, taj, rasta just so they can save their company. don’t even think about getting john john. thats a farce.

john john and wade will end up at vans.

laurie will end up at fox

rasta at patagonia

taj – who knows. he doesn’t really need more money right.

75.

don’t rule out john to quiksilver.

76.

It’ll be Vans. They’re targeting 2 billion in China sales by 2015…. Isn’t Dane on 4mil ?

77.

The Surfers surfer. No bullshit charger. Worth every cent and more. JF is the man. Better get your titles quick boys here comes the future king.

78.

fuk yes

79.

one must like the people they work for. john is core . he wont like hurley. he wont like billabong. and no matter how many caddies from oneill carry his shit around hes not extending a contract to have people kiss his ass all day. he might only have one choice left…

80.

rumor these ways say John is signing with Tapout or Alpinestars.

81.

Here’s the obvious inside scoop. Hurley did not drop sponsorship of the Multi million dollar cost of the US OPEN for nothing. John John will be on Hurley by Pipe. (makes no sense for Oneill to make him uphold his obligation if he may win Pipe n triple crown and they cant even use him in advertising cause come Jan 1st, hes rocking another logo on his nose.) Vans will retain JJ as they sponsor the Triple Crown of which JJ win have a dozen titles by career’s end. Hurley will eventually take over the pipe masters as billabong will not be able to afford it. Jordy will leave ONEILL for Oakley as they ate the only company out there who can afford him who do not have an A+ rider. For Jordy, it’s a simple case of “dump the girlfriend before she dumps you” …cause no one out there for a minute believes that oneill can afford both, nor would keep jordy over JJ. Dane at QUIK along with Kelly makes sense as Dane will be the heir apparent in a few years. But fuck if jordy is gonna stick around, even for big bucks to play second fiddle to a 19yo the rest of his career. Summary? The winner is John John.

82.

and the loser IS TAJ!!! CONTRACT up, beaten twice by a powerless surfer kid. Your time is over MR> BURROW. Hopefully stab goes in the tank as well.

83.

Another American Surfer running the show! WCT Champ this year for shure mates.

84.

we have all overlooked something. in my dreams last night it came to me . he will ride for volcom . the decline of bruce is allowing a gap to form for the prodigal son . this way he can maintain vans and all the core that is his life

85.

James your a fucking tit jj is HAWAII YA STUPID SEPPO CUNT!

86.

jordy goes full oak john sstays with oneill

87.

rip curl will definitely get him.. haha there the next kuta lines

88.

I guess Analog won’t happen (not that they were ever in the running anyways). They announced today that they will be phasing out their surf & skate programs to focus strictly on snowboarding. Looks like Nate & Chippa are going to be shopping around, too.

89.

i think pabst blue ribbon is the call.

90.

Rumor has it that FTW have put a legit bid into the ring…

91.

JJF is the future but let’s be straight…taj still kills it. Settle down “read between the lines”. Unless you’re KSNadamas then STFU. I mean, really? Taj=still the man AND gets more ass than a toilet seat. Fact.

92.

Jordy is still sponsored?

93.

Get him some real sponsors outside of the shit surf industry already. They’ll just hold him back….

94.

I don’t like what you are saying.It really takes time.I have been putting on weight.Can you believe that I bought a TV for $25?My false teeth are stuck to it.I tried losing weight

95.

companies should look at putting on several surfers spread the money around. there are so many good surfers without spnsorship.

96.

so what was the outcome who does he ride for? Vans, Volcom, Billabong, Hollister, A&E, Eropostel, Crate & Barrel, Starbucks?

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