Invasion day in Japan

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Bali of the North?

So bad have the drunken antics of Australians become in a quaint Japanese skiing village, local authorities have appointed a Canadian cage fighter to keep the peace. And he’s been meting out his own form of justice.

It’s 4.46 am, the morning after Australia day and I stand in a bar in the Japanese village of Niseko. In front of me an Australian sits on a couch, his head lolling from side to side, as the bar’s owners try to solicit sense from him.

“Mate, we can’t let you leave here. Where are you staying?” the Australian manager/owner asks, but he can only respond with slurred gibberish.

It’s a fitting end to a night of debauchery perpetrated by travelling Australians in this tiny village (pop. 4667). Over the last twelve hours, two brawls erupted, (one in which a man was felled, then kicked in the head by a Gold Coast woman). An Australian had to be removed from the kitchen of a Japanese family (where he was found making a sandwich) and another badly split his head after a drunken fall. Four major blood loss injuries were suffered by Australians during the night.

A week earlier a man narrowly avoided death after being found lying unconscious in the snow after a bar fight. A bar staffer who’d been following the man home to report the damage he’d done to his bar during the fight, turned saviour ferrying the drunk to his unit. At which point he began spewing blood into a bathtub in front of a horrified wife and children.

Dancing on the bar in Niseko

Over the recent New Year celebrations a series of offenses were recorded, the worst by an (New Zealand born) Australian resident who set fire to a local bar after a disagreement with staff. Though failed to burn it down.

Niseko is home to the best powder snow in the world and, since a glut of green and gold development began here (there’s an LJ Hooker branch here) eight years ago, some very badly behaved Australians. Ex-pats have gone as far as labelling it, “Bali of the North.”

The debauchery reached flash point during Australia day celebrations in 2007, when two groups of surfers acted out a running brawl from one bar to another, over almost 300 meters.

For the local authorities, who despite having one of the world’s toughest justice systems (criminal suspects can be held for 21 days without charge) still hadn’t been unable to quell the idiocy, a new approach was needed.

Niseko

Enter Derek Begley. The Niseko promotions board hired a Canadian cage fighter as the village peacekeeper. Officially, Derek`s title is Community Liaison Officer, a role he describes as “providing a buffer between the public and the police.” This can mean helping a couple of mates avoid spending 21 days in the slammer because a drunken wrestle may have been construed as a fight by local authorities. Or choking fools out who refuse his advice. “It can get weird. I’ve been beating guys up while the [police] stand there and watch,” he says.

Niseko

While Derek’s professional record stands at four and one, including a birth in America’s King of the Cage tournament and a role as the former sparring partner of Light Heavyweight Ultimate Fighting Champion, Rashad Evans, his biggest battle today is against Australia’s binge drinking culture.

“I could never imagine [Canadians] behaving like this in another country. For Australians and Australia day, it’s all about getting smashed and drinking as much beer as you can,” he says.

The most problematic Aussie travellers are often surfers escaping the summer flat spell. When Mick Fanning toured Niseko following his 2007 world title win, Derek was his guide. He says Mick was a “quiet guy who got loud when he drank a lot” and describes him as a “poster boy” for the Australians that tour the area.

In the past twelve months, Australians have been responsible for every offence in Niseko, with Derek attending an average of three call outs a week.

As for why our behaviour is so bad, a local bar manager who wishes to remain nameless, says it’s the result of a lack of restraint. “There are no Responsible Service of Alcohol laws here. You can drink until you drop and I’m powerless to stop you.” Derek is working with local bars to implement drink service guidelines as well as a crack down on underage drinkers. He also lists the absence of women and security personnel at many of the town’s bars as contributors to the conflict.

Our behavior has got locals bemused. Kuni Yoshikawa has lived in Niseko for 22 years and owns a family style backpacker lodge. He admits that only “30% of Australians are a problem,” but doesn’t understand where the aggression comes from. “If I drink too much, I go to sleep. But Australians fight and get up to mischief,” he says.

He tells the story of a 20-year-old Australian lodger his son found passed out in their building’s freezing shoe room following the recent New Year’s Eve celebrations. Kuni’s son helped the man to his room, to wake the next morning and find the man had shit the bed.

There have also been tragic consequences. After a night of “drinking fairly heavily” on February 20, 2009, 27-year-old Brisbane man, Scott Mackay was last seen alive leaving local bar Wild Bills at 1.30 am. He had a ten-minute walk to his lodge but never made it. His body was found once the snow retreated for spring, in a nearby river, following a two month search. - Jed Smith

 Scott Mackay

 

chris
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #85 on : Wed February 24, 2010, 14:57:56
It isnt much different than the Swedes in Austria or the English in Spain, Americans in Mexico...
What ever happens Niseko gets around 18 metres of 8% water content powder snow a season on the Peak... shred that.
S*E*T*H
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Close enough to the truth
Reply #84 on : Mon February 22, 2010, 20:35:11
I was getting in punch-ups outside of King St Macca's (Newcastle's finest institution) through my teens to my early twenties, but by the time I could afford to get to Niseko (in 2004) it was out of my system. Shame those who got the cash to travel overseas on ski holidays ain't got the sense.

I agree about the double standards in Japanese society, although, I think women have more power, and let the men believe they rule the roost (a dynamic that pervaded the highest levels of politics). Soaplands, prostitution, "se-fre" all have a blind-eye turned. But any bloke who thinks that he's fucking around on his wife, and she doesn't hold the propensity to do the same is delusional.

I think Japan is a great country, have travelled there many times since, but not to Niseko. There are far more kogen to ski in Hokkaido, let alone Honshu. Are they racist? Yeah, I think like all countries with drive, patriotism and former nationalist/invading tendencies they hold discontent for foreigners.

And is the violence that bad? Drop by an Australian emergency department from Friday night to Sunday morning and see the results. It would be a shame to think we export that image to the rest of the world. Not enough hot Japan slots? In the male triad of Drink-Fight-Fuck, if you remove the chicks (as pointed out above) the fights happen. I got the tits out of a Canadian SkiJapan worked, and fuck, she had the face of a dropped pie, and the rig of Mr.Stay Puff. Getting action in Japan ain't east. Japanese girls who look for gaijin, are looking for visas (so go and teach english and stay for more than a week), not for a one night fuck-fest, and somebody please prove me wrong.

Good comments above, and certainly a reflection on the Australian condition. We just need to divert the trip from Cairns to Byron Bay via Niseko to stop the violence.

As it was mentioned above, in Japan image is everything. And fuck, going by the back half of Stab, image is everything.

(ps. Don't get me started on fat Aussie chicks who hit the piss too much. Disgraceful.)

(pss. Justin Murray vs Begley in a cage circled by a ring of fire at the bottom of Hirafu;)
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Aussie dickheads
Reply #83 on : Fri February 19, 2010, 08:57:51
I arrived in niseko on Australia day and spent the next ten days disgusted at the behaviour of my fellow countrymen. I had plenty of beers myself but the violence and blatant disrespect to our Japanese hosts was disgraceful. So bad was it that i felt shame when locals asked where I came from and I had to say Australia. Aussies abroad across the world need to pull their fucking heads in. The quint Aussie coloquialisms that used to arouse foriegners affections died with crocodile Dundee 4 now people overseas percive us as genuine dickheads. Thanks to "true blue dinkydi blokes and shielas" displaying their aussiness everywhere ,Australia is fast becoming the new America in the tourist scene. Most local business people the world over no longer want our money they just want us to "fuck right off!".
digglar
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my back
Reply #82 on : Wed February 10, 2010, 22:19:03
Thanks for the nice words w and Shane.
Couldn`t have asked for better validation of what we are trying to do here, gentleman.

Thanks for putting the bounce back in my step as I do the rounds, guys.

Cheers- D
Anonymous
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #81 on : Wed February 10, 2010, 18:37:06
Fucking Aussies. A bunch of neanderthal ex-convicts.
w
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #80 on : Wed February 10, 2010, 18:22:36
unfortuntaly its getting to the point where the Oz booze riddled extravaganza is making us look liek a bunch of wankers, and there is def a lesson to be learned.

I was over with Scott and out with him that night last year when that happened and let me tell you - it was fucked, a terrible accident, and a LESSON LEARNT the hard way.

Do not go out by yourself, keep mates with you if you are having a drink - it gets super cold and when you are drinking you dont even notice. Seriously - take it as a serious piece of advice for any time you spend there or in any super cold climate. it happens too easily and its totally F*#ked when it does.

i dont really think it matters if Derek is an cage fighter - he helped myself and my friends in the search day after day and was an absolute champ in the situation that occured. thanks D.

peace.
Shane Peel
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Your Shout:)
Reply #79 on : Tue February 09, 2010, 20:39:28
Hey I have seen Derek doin his thing and I reckon he does a good job and there is a HELL of a lot more to Niseko than just the mayhem of Hirafu.
Northy $$$
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Best guy!
Reply #78 on : Mon February 08, 2010, 18:13:18
haha - The Lantern's comments are epic! Heaviest rip on team egg.
saiban
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Many years...
Reply #77 on : Mon February 08, 2010, 15:39:23
... have I lived in Japan. Yeah, I suppose there are very nice parts of Japanese culture. However, corruption, double speech, soaplands, and the like seem to be the ever so popular - and it's not a foreign influence. Study some history. Japanese culture is not exactly pure. If there is anything that can be said about Japanese culture is that, appearances matter. So of course this explains the wonderful face that every Japanese tries to put on. However, almost every Japanese guy I know has almost no respect for women - from local doctors to company presidents. The women have no much more respect for themselves.

So while I might care about Japan maybe as much as Japanese do, Japanese should do something about helping their own people. You can't tell a bunch of people that live on an island to never leave the island and keep anything from the "outside" out. That's not going to help. The youth especially are intrigued with things from the "outside".

I hate to see the nice parts of Japan disappear and the nice people turn into losers, but pointing fingers at the "outsiders" is not going to do much good. It's not going to stop people from being interested in the "outside". What I would suggest, is for Japanese people to be more Japanese. It's also up to Japanese to decide what that means. I hope they make some good decisions.

The loud and boisterous Aussies in Niseko can be a pain, but so can the Japanese and Chinese and English and any anyone else. I think education is very important here. Security could be stepped up, sure. However, usually the people getting in trouble are the ones that end up hurt. I'll leave it to the Japanese authorities to decide what to do. They're usually pretty careful about things. All things considered, I think the "locals" are handling things well. It's the holiday crowd that doesn't handle themselves. I think what everyone on this planet needs to remember is, "Don't shit in your own back yard", but don't shit in anyone else's either.
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The Lantern
Reply #76 on : Mon February 08, 2010, 08:57:10
I agree with you on one point: Let's get your group of shrinks together - and get you up on the couch!

You're so full of hate and ignorance it's truly scary.

Seriously. Get some help.
the lantern
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kuri
Reply #75 on : Mon February 08, 2010, 02:41:18
Japanese people hate you. They don’t appreciate the ex pat movement and wish japan to remain a homogenous society. If you are a man your probably just there to spear as many yellow tails as possible and if you’re a woman your most likely there stinking it up trying to be cultural, and corrupting the local females with feminist western philosophies ,a loud mouth bad attitude and your filthy yeast infected vagine.It sounds like you are a bar slut that has an alcohol problem yourself. Or an alcoholic bogan.
Japanese people used to enjoy the novelty of gaijin on holiday and squeal movie star movie star,, but you won’t find many that are genuinely happy about the influx of men with yellow fever that try to live there live out there white meat yellow treat fantasies and the trash bag western woman that go there to take advantage of easy high paid salaries for demeaning work and free alcohol courtesy of sleazy Japanese business men.
Japanese used to be the tyrants of the orient. They invaded countless countries. Philippines, Korea, China to name a few hell they even dropped a bomb or two on ol Darwin town.
Then along came Uncle Sam and dropped the A bomb. This decisive and crushing defeat changed the psyche of the Japanese beyond measure. The once proud nation of warriors are now a nation full of sniveling ,bowing nerds with inferiority complexes that think of themselves as inferior to the white barbarians. They are so polite it is unhealthy. Running around and bobbing and bowing and putting everyone else’s needs first is unhealthy and dishonest. They can’t deal with conflict and will usually lie to avoid confrontation. Just ask Captain Paul Watson of Sea Sheppard if he finds the Japanese to be a race of honest people.
When most people are feeling emotion, anger, frustration, disappointment etc etc it will show on their face. Japanese people have a defense mechanism called ‘the pan face’. Whenever something is not working out well for them they slip into pan face mode and pretend everything is ok.
It’s not the fault of the Japanese people individually. They don’t mean to be souless robots. They are bred to think and act a certain way and have immense social pressure to fit in. As they say in japan. The nail that sticks out must be hammered in.’’
I’m really only touching the tip of the ice berg here. Japans social problems are complex beyond measure and if you got a group of psychologists to rate different cultures in regards to mental happiness and healthiness I’m sure japan would come in last in every report.
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Begley
Reply #74 on : Mon February 08, 2010, 02:01:15
holy shit dude-I sure have pissed on your cornflakes at some point in time haven`t I?

to each their own I guess- I think I do a good job under the circumstances and unless a bunch of people are lying to me, others do too.

Does it help my defence to say I haven`t punched anyone , or even had more than a raised voice altercation, all season?
Nah, you are probably gonna think these things no matter what I say.

Enjoy your Haterade.
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@ Niseko Watchdog
Reply #73 on : Sun February 07, 2010, 23:19:36
Such typical cultural imperialism from the westerner. What is this "common sense policing" you demand? You would know, being a Niseko resident, that Japan's crime rates are amongst the lowest in the developed world. Seems there policing holds up just fine. Australia's crime rates on the other hand are through the fucking roof, a lot of it alcohol related. Ask not what is wrong with Japan's policing, or their decision to appoint a western figure with a martial arts background and an understanding of violence, restraint (you know, the first things you learn when you do Karate as a kid) and various alcohol related ills of western society better, it appears, than the local authorities. Ask what is wrong with Australia and its culture of drinking that the justice system didn't deter us and even Derek, with his 'cauliflowered ears and bent nose,' is still having trouble .
Niseko Watcher
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #72 on : Sun February 07, 2010, 22:51:40
Anonymous (reply #70) thinks Begley is OK. Sure, until some poor drunken bum is king hit and dies. (Though in one sense, that might at least get rid of the self-styled "sheriff" once and for all. Behind bars if there is any justice. The "man" himself says that "picking fights with men (using the word loosely) with cauliflowered ears and bent noses has consequences".
Those of us who live in Niseko are still dismayed that someone with Begley's background, and subsequent on-the-ground track record, can seriously be seen as a good thing for Hirafu. We have all seen the disastrous consequences of punch-happy Samoan bouncers at nightclubs in Oz. The last thing anyone needs is for the same kind of thing to happen in Niseko. If anyone dies because of the heroic intervention of this "wonderful" cauliflower eared, bent nosed angel of mercy it will be tragic in the extreme. Niseko doesn't need clapped out "cage fighters" carried away by their own distorted sense of importance. Niseko needs some common sense policing, and the sooner the better.

We note Begley is tuned in to this thread. His over-inflated ego was obviously really tickled by the publicity.
Pow
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #71 on : Sun February 07, 2010, 22:45:21
Enjoy the drink all you want, "Apres'" is a big part of skiing/snowbaording culture. However ask yourself do you want a hangover or fresh tracks all morning?
Anonymous
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@ Niseko (investor) Watchdog
Reply #70 on : Sun February 07, 2010, 12:58:07
"The sooner a genuine "Law and Order" regime is in place in Niseko the better."
Niseko had one up until 2007, as the article details. But it couldn't cope with the presence of a culturally arrogant population of Australians. Thus why a buffer, Derek, needed to be introduced between the Cops and the public. It seems a very proactive step to me. One that wouldn't fly in Oz, but look at the drinking and violence culture here. Who are we to be giving advice and making demands?

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@ Niseko (investor) Watchdog
Reply #69 on : Sun February 07, 2010, 12:53:24
"The sooner a genuine "Law and Order" regime is in place in Niseko the better."
Niseko had one up until 2007, as the article details. But it couldn't cope with the presence of a culturally arrogant population of Australians. Thus why a buffer, Derek, needed to be introduced between the Cops and the public. It seems a very proactive step to me. One that wouldn't fly in Oz, but look at the drinking and violence culture here. Who are we to be giving advice and making demands?
Kuri
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The Lantern
Reply #68 on : Sun February 07, 2010, 11:59:41
Lantern...

I think the "fantasy" bubble I live in is pretty well balanced. And as for my understanding of the Japanese people, you may be right, but I think I know a thing or two about them. See, when I'm in Japan (and I'm there alot) I talk with the locals. I go to Japanese restaurants and Japanese bars and talk with the owners, staff and other guests. Perhaps I am naive, but I believe we could walk around Hirafu and talk with a hundred Japanese people and I honestly doubt we'd find five percent who have an issue with Australians per se.

As I said in my original post, most Japanese people hate drunken pricks - be they Aussies, Seppos, or Japanese!

I would add that most Japanese people I've met (both in Japan & in O/S) love Aussies and Australia. More than a quarter of a million of them visited Oz in 2009 despite a grim domestic economy and the ever-increasing cost of travel.

Perhaps it's you and Jed who are ill-informed. I'll be honest Lantern, Ithink calling a whole nationality cowardly because they're polite shows less than a complete understanding.

Binge drinking is an issue - but certainly not one that Australians (or even Australians in Niseko) have a monopoly on! I think your last paragraph rant shows that maybe you need a bit of a reality check yourself...

Hell, a good mate of mine - Japanese - runs a bar. I never realised he was a cowardly, Oz-hating, blood-sucking parasite until you pointed it out for me. Thanks for that. Now that I know his laid-back surfer, snow-boarder and artist facade is all part of his cunning plot to destroy society with beer I'll be very very watchful.
Tim
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #67 on : Sun February 07, 2010, 09:57:49
Society watchdog: you've hit the nail on the head there. It's a cultural thing in Oz, if you're gunna change it - well, good luck with that.*

Funny how, in a country such as say - France - where kiddies can drink pretty much whenever they want, they don't carry on like fuckwits whenever their full. It's definatly a pseudo gay/peer-pressure thing in this country. Don't get maggot with 'the boys' and yr a poofter blah blah blah. If you think otherwise, plant yourself down the Corso in Manly - Sober - 3am on a Saturday, then try and raise a conversation - sensibly - to anyone walking past. You will get beaten.

I can't remeber a month between year 10 (and I was a late entry) and those uni years when there wasnt a binge. But hey, I'm not too fused about that.
Dunno about Japan, but fuck, London is infested with these Aussie 'Patriots' and I can imagine the same... Every cunt who at home worked at Coles and lived with Ma and Pop's, off the leash for three months gobbling cheap eccy's, parroting about how off their heads they are, how much cider they can sink, singing fucking Waltzing Matilda like it's a sport... Knobends.
If they had any sense of adventure or masculinity they'd be travelling solo and getting out of their 'hobre' comfort zone...

* as I type, I see footage of Pat Rafter on the tv, skulling a beer on centre court of the tennis and being cheered off. yew.
digglar
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begley
Reply #66 on : Sun February 07, 2010, 05:50:46
my goodness someone has a hate on for me.
Niseko Watcher
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RE: Japan Invasion
Reply #65 on : Sat February 06, 2010, 21:54:41
Like a lot of stories like this one, there was a lot of truth and a fair amount of fiction, misunderstanding and just plain distortion. I agree with Reply #40 above - Niseko has moved on to a fairly large extent, and the trouble makers now are definitely a very small minority. As the wealthy Chinese continue to move in, it will become too expensive for the Ocker yobbos to keep coming here (he said hopefully). Just to touch on one clear error - the fire at Wild Bills was caused by a drunk who crawled underneath the verandah to try to find a warm place to sleep because his girlfriend had locked him out of their apartment, and tried to light a fire to keep warm!! My major gripe about the story though, was the glorification of Begley. He is what he was - a "cage fighter" who has had too many hits to the head. He is a thug, and a bully, and known himself to indulge in more biff than necessary, and more alcohol than is good for womeone in his position. Why the authorities allow him to get away with it is a mystery, and the sooner a genuine "Law and Order" regime is in place in Niseko the better. On balance, a good story was ruined by not checking facts a bit more closely. Was Begley the original source? It wouldn't surprise anyone on Niseko.
Society Watchdog
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good call Juan.
Reply #64 on : Sat February 06, 2010, 11:57:17
Damn right Juan!

Anyone that thinks that a large percentage of Australians aged 18 - 30 doesn't have a drinking problem is off their tree! I'm a uni student and the drinking scene is out of control. Even in high school it was demented. What about friday arvo early knock off drink o'clock... so many cunts getting loaded.

What are you doing this weekend? orrr i'm farkin gunna get maggot aye!

I don't drink cause I play intense sport, but when you tell someone you don't drink they trip out. They immediately think... oh must have abusive alcoholic parents or something... If your at a bar and ask for water people start hitting you up for pills! Happens every time man.

Juan mentioned that 60% of ALL police work in this country is related directly or indirectly to alcohol. Pick up a Gold Coast Bulletin on a monday morning and check out the first few pages... man bashed by drunken teens... drunk driver kills pedestrians... drunken youth assaults police... it's regardless.

What about the people that have to clean up after these maggots. Fucking trash everywhere. What about hospital emergency waiting rooms full of pissed people that need to have their stomach pumped or got into a fight. What about the crew that come in to work on monday with a hang over and do fuck all ...or dont turn up at all... I read somewhere that costs millions of dollars in profit and lost productivity. Biggest scourge on society.

Reality check made a good point - your country is already being taken over by asian and european migration. while you're cutting down trees, laying bricks and eating sweet meat at barbeques, those guys are taking over the sectors in society that will dictate the future of the country.

I see that exact thing happening. The Asian uni students are dominating. The aussies usually fail coz they place more importance on getting tanked up. The Asian women have better rigs... aussie chicks are usually saggy pieces of shit by the time they're 30 unless they smash the gym.

Nah no drinking problem in OZ aye.

oh yeah... I have copped Mick Fanning out at night back in the days... just as big of a rooster as any other. That's why I hope that he looses every comp.
The lantern
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Binge Drinking Nation
Reply #63 on : Sat February 06, 2010, 10:47:49
Right on Juan

You know what's up

Anyone have any realisitc ideas on how to solve these problems?

This article generated a lot of comments
Juan
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An alcohol-obsessed Nation...
Reply #62 on : Fri February 05, 2010, 23:05:53
I'm an european that has been living in Australia for 5 years and I still get amazed when aussies still don't admit/don't understand that Australia is obsessed about alcohol and that it is a big problem. Even when every single day you hear on the news of someone that died because they were driving drunk or hit by someone drunk, someone that got bashed by someone drunk, someone that got raped by a drunk, a sportmans that did something stupid because they were drunk, some aussie on holidays that did fucked up because they were drunk, etc, etc, etc.
Did you know that 60% of ALL police work in this country is related directly or indirectly to alcohol. Yes people in Europe drink, yes people in south america drink, yes people in asia drink too, but the way people drink here and specially the way they behave when they drink is incredible and its getting out of control. I know it is the Anglo-saxon background burden but it can and has to be stopped. And it is not just media speculation and if you think so than you are still living in either a denial or a ignorant bubble.
I love this country but it seriously needs to fix this drinking culture or very quickly aussies will be seen by the world as americans are seen nowadays in general: loud, arrogant and disrespectful of other people and other cultures... Obvioulsy not every person in either country behaves like that, but when small minorities of idiots turn into 30% minorities like it says in the article then it starts to be fair to generalize on the behavior of the whole nation, soceially when probably another 30% don't think that there is something wrong.

Cheers!
dear bert
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privileged fucks
Reply #61 on : Fri February 05, 2010, 16:01:07
no ones disputing poor distribution of wealth and health care etc in USA China India globally nor the right wing medias roll in political propaganga

the point is young men who grow up in affluent city slums and we all have em
(ie densely populated with minority ethnic groups, displaced indigenous and socially challenged locals who don't have access to education, health, work opportunities, feasible parents /other adults)
make the white middle class well nutured educated world travelled privileged fucks who are racist drunk reactionaries look good
fat tat
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #60 on : Fri February 05, 2010, 14:33:32
what's the story behind the southern cross symbol? why do aussies always get tat's of it? here's the history behind it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crux
stay on it
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pissheads
Reply #59 on : Fri February 05, 2010, 10:38:20
good when all the bogans are on the piss in bali..get the 6am to 8am sessions always uncrowded! Only way to get a wave there...forget the post 10am session up Ulu's..
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #58 on : Thu February 04, 2010, 23:32:28
Brits in Greece on cheap vacations are the top offenders. I can't comment on the Australians in Japan because I haven't witnessed it first hand. I do enjoy the posts lashing out at Americans. Really???Australians should be more concerned about being poorly read. If you take the Americans off the tour (Slater & Reynolds) watching the Australians battle for a world title would be the equivalent of making love to a bowl of vanilla pudding. Yawn. That said....Stab is the best surf publication. Proof that all is not lost in Oz.
the lantern
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caaaate and kuuuuuri
Reply #57 on : Thu February 04, 2010, 21:14:41
Are kaate and kuuri serious?
Have you two got your head buried in the sand? what kind of fantasy bubble do you live in?
Firstly Kuuri.This name might sound Japanese but if you knew anything about japanese people you would realise that just because the locals may smile and nod politely when the aussies go past in the street that doesn't mean anything. They are just to cowardly to express their true feelings.Amongst themselves their complaints about the gaijin barbarians would be prolific and unrestrained.
This article is not crap.It makes people have a good hard look at themselves and australian drinking culture.I"m all for postitive thinking but the fact is there are bad things in history and bad things happening right now. Binge drinking is one of the most pressing social problems today and there is nothing wrong with writing about it.Face reality fool.
Kaate are you serious?You would like to thank the publicans? They might have government approval but these parasites on society are nothing but drug dealers.Whose responsible for turning out hundreds or thousands of drunken trouble makers out into the city streets all over the world at closing time.Whose responsible for people jumping in a car after a few to many and killing other sober people who happen to be driving at the same time.Whose responsible for millions of people with prematurly failing health related to alchol that clogs up the public health system for those more deserving.Whose responsible for broken homes and domestic violence.
Sure there are parties responsible other than the publicans but they are big players.Don't be thanking these blood sucking parasites that get rich off human misery and debauchery.
Alchol is the number 1 problem drug in the world.I say ban it and people that get drunk and make a scene should be put in barracks at the local town square in front of a large collection of rotton substances, sticks and stones and punished by the locals as they see fit.

Jen Qui
bert
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Re: Invasion day in Japan
Reply #56 on : Thu February 04, 2010, 20:32:21
That's what I said, anonymous, you shouldn't read US mainstream press...When they don't lie, they're just wrong.
Just have a look on the way they manage to bring you in Iraq...And, as for slums, it's funny to hear US guys talking about slums when having a look on poor people appartments in France...Especially people from Boston...I saw real slums in Boston or elsewhere in the US, something I thought I would see only in third world countries.
And I never hear a french (or an aussie, BTW) asking for help because there is no health coverage or else. It is amazing to see US people always talking about the fact that they're rich and everything, and then try to make me cry because one guy just found his wonderful country will leave him dying in front of the hospital because "he has not enough money"...

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