Lewis Samuels retort

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Lewis Samuels isn’t as original as you might think. Derek Hynd used to annually publish a similar list to the Power Rankings back in the 1980s, which I’m told was even better than Samuels’ acerbic and amusing rants. Lewis’s main problem is that he chooses his targets. Only the vulnerable and weak are subjected to his virtual sodomising. It’s funny, but somebody’s gotta foot the bill. We asked two of his favorite targets, Phil Macdonald and Drew Courtney, how it feels.

STAB: So Lewis Samuels has divvied you out an ample serving of fecal pie. Here’s your chance to return serve, my man. I mean, it was only a few years ago you were third in the world.

Phil Macdonald: I didn’t know he was still doing those stupid things. I don’t really read them. Why would I care what some twerp, who just wants to be controversial, has to say? I’d love for him to say some of the shit he writes to my face. I wouldn’t hit him. I might word him up, but then again I don’t really care. Why would I invest energy into hating some dork, two-faced prick who writes shit for the sake of being controversial?

Well Macca, if you did read them, this is what you would learn: “Macca got one deep little dogger for a 6.83, but compared to the better backsiders, Phil’s stance looks about as stylish and flexible as that of a He-Man action figure…” Rebuttal?

(Laughter) He’s off his fucken head. I don’t really care that much. He just tries to shock everyone. It’s his opinion, it’s not journalism.

What about this: “In the next heat, Phil scored a TOTAL of .77 points. The only lower scores in ASP history have come when Brazilians have refused to take off on a wave during heats on big days.”

Tell the fuckwit they called the competition off for mine and CJ’s heat. Then when it was off, the waves pumped so they put it back on. The wind came up onshore during our heat and the waves stopped. He obviously doesn’t watch every heat. He just looks at the results or the heats on demand and says, “this is what I can do, I can write people off this way.” I feel sorry for him.

Drew Courtney has been the subject of unrelenting abuse from Samuels since it was announced he graduated to the tour, a lot of which has been about at his physical appearance.

You angry, Drew?

Drew Courtney: It doesn’t bother me one little bit. But I heard a few of the Hawaiian guys are hunting around for him. I would love for him to show his face at one of the contests, instead of just watch ‘em on the web cast. I’d love to meet him face to face. It wouldn’t go real good.

Would you care to respond to this: “Taking off on the shoulder, Drew also attempted to back into shacks like an octogenarian in a Lincoln continental who only uses the rearview.”

I can understand that, for sure. I had a bit of shocker. I went to Scotland to do the WQS and arrived in Tahiti the night before. I’d never surfed Chopes before, so that is probably a fair call.

Do you believe Samuels is fair in his appraisal of the top forty-five?

It’s a problem if he only gets the back end of the forty-four. We are three contests in and there are guys in the top twenty who are just as deserved of a lashing. He’s just trying to suck up the bigger guys arses, I think. Plus he’s just watching it on the computer so he doesn’t see the conditions or the other stuff that happens around a contest. So he shouldn’t really open his mouth.

Should the power rankings exist?

He has a passion for the sport, for sure. But I can’t see how it is good for surfing if he is writing off surfers in general. The back end of the 44 are all total kooks in his opinion. I think he’s just trying to be controversial for the sake of it. I can’t really see the point of it. – Jed Smith

chris
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Re: Lewis Samuels retort
Reply #45 on : Thu June 04, 2009, 16:53:59
" The dominant and most deep-dyed trait of the (surf) journalist is his timorousness. Where the novelist fearlessly plunges into the water of self-exposure, the (surf) journalist stands trembling on the shore in his beach robe. The (surf) journalist confines himself to the clean, gentlemanly work of exposing the grieves and shames of others." (janet malcolm)
Anonymous
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Reply #44 on : Tue June 02, 2009, 16:22:07
If only surfing mattered or were that interesting, all of this would be really controversial. But it's not, so who cares?
Prudence
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Re: Lewis Samuels retort
Reply #43 on : Tue June 02, 2009, 11:46:08
First off, all the guys on tour are beyond decent.

Second, the pros who really take his criticsim seriously and are willing to field questions about it for a surf mag just fuel the fire. They're legitimizing him.

At the end of the day, these guys travel the world for free and get the opportunity to surf more waves than 99% of us will. On top of that they likely sample such a variety of pussy their dicks are falling off.

They don't win a drop of sympathy from me. Long live Lewis.
Rock Lobster
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Keep the bitchin in the kitchen
Reply #42 on : Thu May 28, 2009, 10:53:54
Lewis may have read one too many Vice mags, and he does stick it in to some of the guys pretty hard, but his blog is an entertaining read, and the surfers should know its a send up. so chin up boys, you know you surf better then he or any of us do. and no bitch can take that from you.


I'm counting the number of issues until Lewis Samuels has a column in Stab. it's only a matter of time. you can almost smell the cross-pacific appreciation for each others spin.
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Samuels
Reply #41 on : Wed May 27, 2009, 16:15:38
Samuels is hilarious. The surf world, esp. pros take themselves way too seriouly sometimes. Its about time someone's injected some entertainment value into that scene. Surf companies have owned the media and controlled the portrayal of the athletes for so long we've forgetten that they are there for our entertainment (Kelly saved any lives lately?) --Court Jesters. These guys have dedicated their lives to being judged by others, so they should not be strangers to it. If they don't like it, they can get a real job like me and stay underground : )
Harry the hat
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Jews for Jesus
Reply #40 on : Wed May 27, 2009, 15:15:38
Hazzar ! Rejoice the all mighty little Jew bastard ! we love you ..xx
george
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Go Oracle
Reply #39 on : Wed May 27, 2009, 05:45:28
your balls not a viralgina
george
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Reply #38 on : Wed May 27, 2009, 05:43:25
grow 'em first baby!
Anonymous
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Reply #37 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 20:17:28
just so ya know lewis samuels does rip and he charges pretty big waves. http://www.niceness.org/surf/interviews/lewis.html

thats still not the point. hes having fun. stupid people tend to get angry when smart people have fun because they're not quite sure whats happening, which causes fear which causes aggression.

but everyone calm down. these guys didn't really kick up that much about the criticism its just a stab beat up. lewsi does not take the neo surf journalism manifesto as seriously as stab.
hendog
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Reply #36 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 19:33:47
These guys need to harden the fuck up and take what they deserve. And seriously who cares what 1 cheeky journalist thinks
Brent
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Re: Lewis Samuels retort
Reply #35 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 17:58:24
Dr X, Russle Crowe is probably not the greatest example you could have picked but point taken, if Macca doesn't like his surfing to be critiqued then get a real fucking Job flippin' burgers or picking up glasses down at Northies.
That said who the fuck is Lewis Samuels? He probably can't even duck dive, at least Derek Hynd can surf. Bring back DH's top 45 pro review Stab.
Dr. X
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Reply #34 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 16:07:46
If you're a pro surfer, you have to accept that you're in the public eye and that your performance is subject to judgment. The same holds true for any other public figure or public entertainer: professional athletes in general, actors, politicians, authors, film directors, etc. Did Russell Crowe ever threaten to beat up Roger Ebert? Get over it.
flappas
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Reply #33 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 15:51:55
you deadshits checked the surf today?... been doin mad net cutties... virtual finnas...fuckin hotdog on that ya flappas
Go MAcca+Sweet as
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Are you ok?
Reply #32 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 14:43:58
Nah, totally wrong, Im far more handsome and I only weigh 69kg for a start lol.
You and the Netsurf Guy appear to have a similar writing style, I guess I was wrong, please forgive me.
I simply respect all types of surfing as there is so many ways to ride a wave. Having said that I do not appreciate Lids, Goat boats or Malibu's very much.
I live on an island with fantastic waves and get to see many good surfers doing their thing quite often. Im not blind. Good surfing is good surfing. Do you disagree?
I surf faster than Phil does but hey, hes a power surfer, a total polar opposite of my style so I think hes cool to watch. Am I wrong thinking this?
My Schooling was fair I guess,perhaps not as good as yours huh?
I named myself "sweet as" then "Go MAcca" for shits and giggles nothing more. Im on relax time and love a shit stir online it grounds me bouncing off of all you guys, again, forgive me.
Mr Samuels, yeah Ill write a line or two for you no problem,- if it wont cost me any teeth that is.
TheCriticsCritic
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Y Kant Go MAcca Read?
Reply #31 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 12:57:47
Go MAcca failed comprehension at school and is a fan of Phil Macdonald. Therefore, one can only draw the conclusion that Go MAcca is Phil Macdonald.
Lewis Samuels
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Hello
Reply #30 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 12:45:40
My name is Lewis Samuels, and I'm here to RECRUIT you!
Sweet as
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Re: Lewis Samuels retort
Reply #29 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 12:43:03
Hmmm the netsurf guy is displaying symptoms of mull overload..I suggest a good sandwich before he sits down and types his rot.
Now hes writing poems..really bad ones at that.
Did someone fingerbang his girlfriend or something?
Anonymous
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Reply #28 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 12:14:32
Ha ha ha, I love it. Well done, TheCriticsCritic. Fun's over now - back to work. Cheers.
TheCriticsCritic
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Netsurf = recycled clichés with the occasional full stop.
Reply #27 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 12:08:05
A poem by the esteemed Netsurf:

Hook line and sinker,
hit a nerve,
bent out of shape,
Nice one, Einstein.

Storm in a tea cup,
those that can't, love to bring down those that can,
all's fair in love and war,
so bring it,
living the life.
Go MAcca
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Re: Lewis Samuels retort
Reply #26 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 11:56:54
How cool is Macdonald? he could remove Lewis's arms at the stump with one hand yet hes got full control of himself. Im glad he sees that opinions are just opinions and hold no water at all unless you let them get to you. This translates to his surfing too, full control- big guy, yet rips in small stuff as well..
Netsurf
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Ha ha ha
Reply #25 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 11:48:18
Hook line and sinker. The heat thing hit a nerve did it? Who's getting all bent out of shape about this team? You = eg I h8 idiots. What a simple fool you are. Liked that one comeback too, "Suck my virtual balls George!" Nice one, Einstein. It's a nothing debate, the two surfers didn't even fire up. Storm in a tea cup and your in the middle ducking the foam thinking your in the pit. I find it funny that those that can't, love to bring down those that can. But, all's fair in love and war so bring it - but don't lose sight of how pathetic and weak you are. While these two (lowly ranked top 45) surfers are traveling the world living the life (and deservedly being critiqued along the way) you're at home beating off and surfing close-outs. Good luck to you champ!
casius clay
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it's cool
Reply #24 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 11:19:25
journalism good bad and ugly fuels the industry that pays the surfers bills.

Drew came off sounding ok in my books and the guy really does surf well. He is a rookie too so cut him some slack.

Phil, i am sure you too were taking the piss back. If you weren't then harden up.
The oracle
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Reply #23 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 11:04:50
Suck my virtual balls George!
George
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Make yourselves known
Reply #22 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 10:28:43
You who hide behind handles. Lets criticize every move you make. So if surfing is so protectective of itself? So be sure then to take it to the extreme opposite and call out people who are actually achieving something in their personal lives and destroy them tear 'em down. Thats the answer, no grey area.

You guys are so cool.
The oracle
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Poingant, incisive and so very true
Reply #21 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 10:10:54
Perfect critic's critic. Perfect. May this sport be rid of the pronounced brow line, grunters of yesteryear. Your tenure is over netsurf, now fuck off back to the realsurf forum.
TheCriticsCritic
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Bingo!
Reply #20 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 10:02:50
It took a while, but Netsurf the moron did it. The "you must surf as well as the top 45 to comment on the top 45" argument. Please, make it stop.

Imagine, if you will, a television commentary team where every time a player dropped a pass or throw in football some ass like Netsurf said "yeah, can you do that? I bet you can't even play football", it would get boring very quickly. People like Netsurf are the reason surfing doesn't progress as fast as it should and the reason that the protective bubble of pro surfing needs to be burst. While the commentary teams are employees of the companies that put on the contests, it's just a love-in. Look at how these guys take criticism? Fucking cry-babies.

Here's a newsflash Netsurf. Pro surfers get judged every day they compete by nerds with computers who can't surf as well as the top 45. They're called judges.
Turtle
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Re: Lewis Samuels retort
Reply #19 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 09:46:55
Why get so worked up? Who else is giving these surfers publicity? If it weren't for postsurf most of these guys would just be a headshot on the asp website with a small write up in the mags at the end of the year when they drop off the tour.
I h8 idiots
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The oracle
Reply #18 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 09:44:16
Yeah, coz you have to have won a heat in your life to have an opinion netsurf you fucken moron.
It's people like you who are the problem. Fucks who held onto to the surfing dream, failed, and now try to garner satisfaction from their lives by buddying up with pros. Lewis Samuels is da man. He is funny - and who gives a fuck who he's hurting as long as it aint me.
Netsurf
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Reply #17 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 09:26:14
Who cares? This all all boring shite. You're all clowns that have never won a heat in your life. Key board jockey's the lot of you, Jed and Sam included. Snooze...
JimG
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Re: Lewis Samuels retort
Reply #16 on : Tue May 26, 2009, 09:13:37
The truth sometimes hurts: TB, Parko, Kelly - You guys are overscored. Macca & Drew deserve the top spots on tour as they are routinely underscored.

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